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Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jan 17 @ 3:44 AM ET
Theo Fox: Game 3 @ Panthers
A preview to the Blackhawks next two-game series versus the Panthers.

Is Kevin Lankinen up next in net or will the reins be given back to Malcolm Subban?

Could another rookie like Brandon Hagel or Nicolas Beaudin make his way into the lineup tonight?
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:07 AM ET
First!

Isaak Phillips (Hawks 5th round pick) is going for camping with Hogs.

jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 17 @ 4:20 AM ET
Laskinen going to be fresh, not rusty since his last action was a split pre season intra squad affair?

Once the AHL season begins, I have to believe that two goaltenders sharing the net keeps both fresh as long as either has a consecutive games started streak of two gp. Tompkins should bethe sacrificial third goaltender. One of the top three could be rotated to Rockford for AHL action. Should one of the NHL netminders have a good game and, consequential, JC feels has earned a second consecutive start, then there is the option of three gialtenders being reasonably fresh.

So as an example let's pretend AHL is playing now. Laakinen should have one or two AHL starts and be recalled. Either Delia or Subban re-assigned. After two or three NHL gp, recall Laakinen and he starts. Whomever was sent down, will be recalled after the team completes two or three NHL games. You could make the recall and demotion be a different number of gp if you want to give NHL starters say two games each.

That is probably the way to go if the objective is to look at each goaltender with equal opportunity.

A different approach might satisfy if you want to give the NHL starter 3-4 consecutive starts. In this scenario, bury one of the top three goaltenders in Rockford while the other two play for somewhere between 6-8 or even ten NHL starts. Next, recall and start the player whom was demoted.

To what extent JC goes to give a fair challenge to his top three goaltenders is yet to be seen. I just do not know how much patience or if he can choose to be as fair as possible to each in the heat of the battle.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 17 @ 7:35 AM ET
Since a call up from the AHL and vice versa has to quarantine for 7 days, I do not see your plan as being very feasible.

If the goaltending is going to be a 3 legged race, one of the 3 will get screwed. A 3 goalie rotation never has worked in the NHL, and never will.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 17 @ 7:51 AM ET
Since a call up from the AHL and vice versa has to quarantine for 7 days, I do not see your plan as being very feasible.

If the goaltending is going to be a 3 legged race, one of the 3 will get screwed. A 3 goalie rotation never has worked in the NHL, and never will.

- LAHawk

Due to the quarantine rule a tenuous situation in net just will not work out. You're right saying some netminder gets screwed in a three goalie rotation. I forgot about the quarantine rule. This rule is going to cause teams to consider very carefully if they would rather not recall from the AHL. Teams may not be real enthusiastic about the taxi squad, but have to make a healthy call as much as possible.

And btw Byram is on the Avalanche taxi squad.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 17 @ 8:28 AM ET
Since a call up from the AHL and vice versa has to quarantine for 7 days, I do not see your plan as being very feasible.

If the goaltending is going to be a 3 legged race, one of the 3 will get screwed. A 3 goalie rotation never has worked in the NHL, and never will.

- LAHawk

Isn’t Rockford in Illinois? Why would a quarantine be required? Is that an NHL rule for this season?

They don’t need a three-goalie routine to “work” in the sense of wins or losses - they’re going to be mostly losses - they need to see what they have, and they need to see goalies develop. I’m guessing that one of the three will be mostly in a Rockford anyways.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 17 @ 9:20 AM ET
Isn’t Rockford in Illinois? Why would a quarantine be required? Is that an NHL rule for this season?

They don’t need a three-goalie routine to “work” in the sense of wins or losses - they’re going to be mostly losses - they need to see what they have, and they need to see goalies develop. I’m guessing that one of the three will be mostly in a Rockford anyways.

- StLBravesFan


NHL rule, why they invented the taxi squad. The player in the AHL is outside the NHL team and taxi squad bubble.

Think of a zoo that puts an animal in quarantine before introducing it to a new herd.
Shynes57
Florida Panthers
Joined: 11.12.2019

Jan 17 @ 9:27 AM ET
We shall see what tonight brings. I have no idea about this florida team yet. There are so many new pieces and obviously no game action yet. Hawks should have the advantage there. Hopefully Driedger didnt lose a step in the long off season
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
We shall see what tonight brings. I have no idea about this florida team yet. There are so many new pieces and obviously no game action yet. Hawks should have the advantage there. Hopefully Driedger didnt lose a step in the long off season
- Shynes57


4-3 Panthers. At this point the Hawks will progress to OT losses by next weekend.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
NHL rule, why they invented the taxi squad. The player in the AHL is outside the NHL team and taxi squad bubble.

Think of a zoo that puts an animal in quarantine before introducing it to a new herd.

- LAHawk

Ok - thanks.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
4-3 Panthers. At this point the Hawks will progress to OT losses by next weekend.
- DarthKane


Such optimism!
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jan 17 @ 9:43 AM ET
Lakes better get the net tonight.

Those other two are all over the place. You can't be a starter in the NHL and lose your net 4 and 5 times a game.

Are you kidding me. Watch other games, you don't see goalies all over the place like that.

I know my views have been limited, but Lakes seems to me the most fundamentally sound, though probably not best athlete of the 3.

Since the first game I ever saw Delia play, I thought he looks like he could be good, but he is all over the place. I thought by now, they would have coached that out of him.

He scares the hell out of me every time I see him play.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:44 AM ET
We shall see what tonight brings. I have no idea about this florida team yet. There are so many new pieces and obviously no game action yet. Hawks should have the advantage there. Hopefully Driedger didnt lose a step in the long off season
- Shynes57

This game is going to be awesome. The Hawks are going to kick their ass. Pius Suter? Kubalik? Boqvist? Kane? Debrincat? Watch out for 6 goals
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
4-3 Panthers. At this point the Hawks will progress to OT losses by next weekend.
- DarthKane

Just think if they had a couple of dynamite kids to win .OT games. Or a center to give Kubalik good looks. I really was impressed with Zebras and Goldy but imagine if we had Byram and Caufield. We could have a huge talented offensive dman in Boqvist once he develops. Need to draft a center and at least two boards capable top six forwards.

Other: the most sensible way to look at our three goaltenders is to allow each to start five consecutive games. Afterwards probably need to go with a tandem and third goalie gets screwed.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jan 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
Just think if they had a couple of dynamite kids to win .OT games. Or a center to give Kubalik good looks. I really was impressed with Zebras and Goldy but imagine if we had Byram and Caufield. We could have a huge talented offensive dman in Boqvist once he develops. Need to draft a center and at least two boards capable top six forwards.

Other: the most sensible way to look at our three goaltenders is to allow each to start five consecutive games. Afterwards probably need to go with a tandem and third goalie gets screwed.

- jhawk59
https://www.google.com/se...6jHM&imgrc=EzEEXp_eFEad9M
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:14 AM ET
[quote=just69sayin]

Just draft well.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
[quote=jhawk59]

So Dach is a bust? Because that is the player the Hawks selected over all the players you wished the Hawks had?
Shynes57
Florida Panthers
Joined: 11.12.2019

Jan 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
Well he sure is fragile.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
[quote=LAHawk]


Dach was a bust the moment Stan drafted him.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
[quote=LAHawk]
Never meant or realized anyone would infer that

I just hope for more good drafts

I believe Dach was a good draft. Irregardless of the fact we had previously drafted dmen in round one. I am willing to give Boqvist time to develop. I would not be surprised if McDonough had sway over Boqvist fast tracked too soon. I was just musing how sweet to have those other players

I don't expect that we necessarily will be able or want to draft by need as far as first round choices go. If it is a close call on best player available, that is a scouting decision which i would defer to wiz rating. I personally want to see a dman who can play physical brand, or a center with our top pick. Whether that would be the best player available, i don't know. I would take that Swedish goaltender if available (and not the forward or dman not selected wih our first pick) if we obtained a second #1. By no means is this my final thought on the draft; await wiz final review and rating.

Late add: Already with Boqvist and Beaudin, Dach was a better choice than Byram anyway. Byram could be great but he is better on a team which already has a top pair. Byram and Maker on the ice on seperate pairs with all their talent up front certainly whets the appetite. First though Byram will have to prove he can handle the NHL. He needs to be just not too bad, defensively. He may be spotted at times, and who knows if he even gets nine gp this season so as to be careful not to burn off a year on his ELC. I very seriously doubt he is ready for NhL now.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
Lakes better get the net tonight.

Those other two are all over the place. You can't be a starter in the NHL and lose your net 4 and 5 times a game.

Are you kidding me. Watch other games, you don't see goalies all over the place like that.

I know my views have been limited, but Lakes seems to me the most fundamentally sound, though probably not best athlete of the 3.

Since the first game I ever saw Delia play, I thought he looks like he could be good, but he is all over the place. I thought by now, they would have coached that out of him.

He scares the hell out of me every time I see him play.

- vabeachbear



Yea they are overly agressive for sure, i keep watching highlights and for example the 5th goal in game 1 they criticize Boqvist who for sure has been struggling, but what I'm noticing is the forwards seem to be very confused in who they should cover, for example that 5th goal in game 1, Boqvist releases his coverage of Stamkos which is recognized, i think it's Kubalik he follows him then their is a moment of confusion between him and Wallmark allows Stamkos to walk in draw Suter to him who was covering Point while 27 was covering the player at the boards.

It seems the players are, especially the forwards, are very confused on what to do, just by the Bolts rotating in the offensive zone it confuses the poop out of our defensive structure. They are able to draw our dman easily to the boards or blue line to create a mismatch in the middle of the ice.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
FWIW if you watch the highlights the 4th goal that was scored by Gourde who was covering Strome at the front of the net, Strome should of just held on to his stick since Gourde in a way hooked and twisted him around knocking him off balance which gave him a great head start.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
I thought we looked bad anybody been watching the Blue Jacket games? Yikes what a (frank)ing clown show.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
SCORE app reporting Delia confirmed as starting tonight. I really wanted to see Laakinen

I am thinking JC has familariy with Delia and wants to see if his game can elevate to the level where he has been pretty good though not consistent in AHL.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jan 17 @ 1:02 PM ET
Lakes better get the net tonight.

Those other two are all over the place. You can't be a starter in the NHL and lose your net 4 and 5 times a game.

Are you kidding me. Watch other games, you don't see goalies all over the place like that.

I know my views have been limited, but Lakes seems to me the most fundamentally sound, though probably not best athlete of the 3.

Since the first game I ever saw Delia play, I thought he looks like he could be good, but he is all over the place. I thought by now, they would have coached that out of him.

He scares the hell out of me every time I see him play.

- vabeachbear

How do you get "Lakes" out of Lankinen? Is that his actual nickname?
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